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glass guy
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Guest House????  Am I missing something? |
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Atmosfera
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| stevenck wrote: |
What are those a/c ledge for? copper pipes are for a/c? So much to learn.
How much of saving are we talking here? |
AC ledge for you to put the AC compressor which required direct ventilation to outside, in our case there is no provision, however developer will resolve this issue.
check out the following diagram
or you can search internet to make a little study..
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Atmosfera
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| glass guy wrote: | | Guest House???? Am I missing something? |
Why? glass guy, what wrong with the guest house? there are few guest houses in this development..
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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For real Atmosfera? If i gather from the discussions, u mean to say that there are units meant for rental in the future. Who would be pocketing the rental monies? the JMB or the developer?
Even if it is for the JMB or later the MC, there r still security and other issues that may come with it.
KIndly please explain. I really didn't know. Thx. |
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victorchew
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Our own community |
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| chrispar wrote: | Im in the midst of planning a private community site that we have for all the OWNERs of Atmosfera condominium.
Here are few things I can think of:-
1.) the objective of this site is to allow the owners to share and discuss whatever matters that related to Atmosfera.
2.) we want to build a strong community that transparent (identity) to each other and allows us to contact each other with ease.
3.) we want to have private and public forum to allow only certain posts expose to the public and the rest stay within our roof.
4.) we want to have personal site to allow owner to decorate and build their own page to represent their protected profile within the community.
5.) we want to leverage this site to build a good relationship among us and the management.
All these incur great amount of works and maintenance (yes, Im talking about the site) so before we have anyone willing to help, that wont work effectively.
So if you guys have any ideas, please pump it in. The first thing that I might need help is to ask "Atmosfera" (yes, not the condo, it's you) to upload all the pictures/photos/videos that you have capture to a File Server/Photo Gallery server (e.g. Picasa). In order to reduce the load of the server, we need to utilize the public sites out there.
Come to think of it, facebook may be very helpful without the hassle of creating another new one.
What do you think? |
Really a good effect from you, chrispar.
If is really hard and time consuming to start a brand new site,
I suggest facebook is a good choice or maybe with a link to a blog?
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victorchew
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| glass guy wrote: | i didn't know about the 30k rebate for 3 yrs from lhdn too. is this for first time house owner/first house?
On the maintenance charge at 18cents/sqft, i can confirm that it will not be enough especially after all the warranty for equipments ie lifts, pool pump, etc ends by the 2nd year. I am speaking from experience here, so be warned if u are counting on the maintenance fee being at this level after the second yr on wards.
Another thing that worries me now is that a lot of the goodies quoted here were heard from the Sales Agents from Kim. Wonder if we will regret not confirming these goodies with the developer themself come VP. SHould we organize ourselves to get the developer to confirm them now rather than later? |
You are right. Now every information we got to know is based on SA.
I know we should trust them, but if anything goes wrong.
Who should we talk to? coz all the while is verbally confirm.
Developer side won't know what we had previously in the conversation.
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Atmosfera
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| glass guy wrote: | For real Atmosfera? If i gather from the discussions, u mean to say that there are units meant for rental in the future. Who would be pocketing the rental monies? the JMB or the developer?
Even if it is for the JMB or later the MC, there r still security and other issues that may come with it.
KIndly please explain. I really didn't know. Thx. |
Hi glass guy, let this issue be worried later who will pocketing the rental etc etc, but i assume once the development handed over to JMB/MC, what ever collection will go into JMB account and the security issue should also be taken care by the JMB later.
What i mean here is the development is well thought off in the facilities provision. These few guest houses should mean for the resident's only guest to stay, for example if your relative come in a group and they need a place to stay overnight, you can rent this guest house for them if your house have not enough room.
The other advantage is this guesthouse can generate small income in long run to maintain the condo as well, as for now we already worry that the maintenance fee 0.18 cents collection is not enough to cover.
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Actually the rental is a big worry but we will leave that for another day but can you enlighten me as to where are these guest house located and how many are there?
Thanks again. |
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Pardon me for being a bit of a pain here but i can't imagine the developer building extra units of 'guest house' for the atmosfera community for free.
in my previous condo, extra car parks were sold off proceeds go to the developer.
Can't be that good right? |
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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ok, got some clarification on the guess house thingy.... there is nothing written on the s&p on this and the developer themselves were not aware of such plans. this thing may have come about from misunderstanding or over eagerness on the part of some of our fellow buyers(Understandable, as buying a home is a huge decision) when the KIM realty ppl explain the 'possible' use of 2 rather large rooms near the ammenities are. Some suggestion on turning these room into guest house may have got some of our imaginationation run wild. So there u go.
On the a/c ledge, got confirmation that all ac points and pipes will be included. THere will be multiple ac ledge, probably just outside of each a/c point due to cost concerns.... |
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Atmosfera
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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These 3 units of guest house located at the back of tower 1.
Just some further clarifications, in the list of facilities for their marketing, guest house is part of the "25" facilities, how can the developer said they are not aware? that strange.
I m not sure whether you have sign your SPA, it is stated in the list of facilities as guest house.
As for the AC pipe, piping inclusive mean refrigerant & drain pipe? if this is true, then this development is worth worth buying, as refrigerant pipe is the one that cost you money during renovation.
Good that we are can share info here... 
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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HI. By now we should see sales for atmosfera hitting above 80%. However, I believe there are a lot of question marks as to what is and what is not provided.
May I suggest we get ourselves organized and meet the developer, to seek out answers to your questions. I see quite a few learned individuals amongst us, people like Atmosfera, who is knowlegeable in construction, and hopefully a lawyer or 2.
I have spoken to the Ass. Project Manager to the job earlier, and he sounds like a reasonable bloke. In fact, he was very helpful when I asked him the question on the a/c ledge.
In the case of Atmosfera Condo, where a realty agent is engaged to sell on behalf of the developer, it is even more important that we establish direct contact with the developer and not take the sales agents' word for it.
A group of 3 to 6 for a start. Have your queries prepared and we can compile them before we set out to meet the developer.
Or any other ideas? |
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Atmosfera wrote: | These 3 units of guest house located at the back of tower 1.
[img]..lh3.ggpht.com/_0xGj_7E5618/Sj8t5MGvRqI/AAAAAAAAEaE/nyb0qusXfFM/s512/GH.JPG[/img]
Just some further clarifications, in the list of facilities for their marketing, guest house is part of the "25" facilities, how can the developer said they are not aware? that strange.
I m not sure whether you have sign your SPA, it is stated in the list of facilities as guest house.
Good that we are can share info here... |
HI A,
I asked the developer on the a/c ledge, piping nad point only. The guest house, I asked the SA from Kim. He seem unsure about it too. No, I haven't signed my SPA. If it is listed on the SPA, even better. One less item to worry about.
By the way, great pic. U went up the hill again to check didn't you.  I really don't remember the guest house listed on the project model. |
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CityGal
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Newbie |
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Hi ppl...am really new wif tis forum kinda thingy.
I purchased a unit at Block 2-Rosella, located at 11th Floor.
Will spend more time following-up on this forum thread...
Cheers! |
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firsttimer
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| glass guy wrote: | | Atmosfera wrote: | These 3 units of guest house located at the back of tower 1.
[img]..lh3.ggpht.com/_0xGj_7E5618/Sj8t5MGvRqI/AAAAAAAAEaE/nyb0qusXfFM/s512/GH.JPG[/img]
Just some further clarifications, in the list of facilities for their marketing, guest house is part of the "25" facilities, how can the developer said they are not aware? that strange.
I m not sure whether you have sign your SPA, it is stated in the list of facilities as guest house.
Good that we are can share info here... |
HI A,
I asked the developer on the a/c ledge, piping nad point only. The guest house, I asked the SA from Kim. He seem unsure about it too. No, I haven't signed my SPA. If it is listed on the SPA, even better. One less item to worry about.
By the way, great pic. U went up the hill again to check didn't you. I really don't remember the guest house listed on the project model. |
My KIM agent kept on telling me about the guest house so it's weird that some other agent didn't know about it.. |
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Went through the brochures, websites and all, yup, there is a portion of on block 1 that says, guest house. COOL!!
Just hope the developer would be providing the furnishing. I have seen instances where developers use money from the sinking fund to pay for pool deck chairs and tables!!! |
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Went through the brochures, websites and all, yup, there is a portion of on block 1 that says, guest house. COOL!!
Just hope the developer would be providing the furnishing. I have seen instances where developers use money from the sinking fund to pay for pool deck chairs and tables!!! |
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stevenck
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Atmosfera wrote: | | stevenck wrote: |
The pickup rate of atmosfera sounds comforting to me too. Let's just hope that atmosfera will turn into one of the icon in bandar puchong jaya. dreaming....... |
Hi stevenck, you have actually 3 roads, link out to LDP, OKR and KESAS thru taman kinrara area, the later 2 can avoid toll and jam.
Well even with so many condo in a group, u can still have the quiet environment, as this little hill Bukit Tandang is far away from hiway.
Random parking already happened outside villamas apt. For Atmosfera, hope this will not happen, as all owner min have 2 car parks and there are nearly 1000 cp for this development.
Not very sure about the rental rate for guest house, this will depend on JMB later.
Well, have u read the earlier posting, perhaps it explain why this are is not investment hub.
Well, not very sure also how r they going to arrange the CP, but rule of thumb, higher floor =more expensive should be getting more strategic location.
Workmanship, at first glance look at villa pavillion and villamas apt, quality of work should be OK, I just don't like the lift brand which i never heard before and the chime is so loud. Maybe Eugene jk can share your experience.
I don't think there will be another spinning of wheel of fortune, unless the developer do it again, since the sales is so good.
SPA will stated clearly how the 0.18 cents calculated.
Tax redemption, may be check with LHDN, under mini budget announced by PM.
Wah.... very long answer.. cheers.. |
Wah, that's very good of you answering all my doubts. Thanks a bunch! |
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Atmosfera
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie |
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| CityGal wrote: | Hi ppl...am really new wif tis forum kinda thingy.
I purchased a unit at Block 2-Rosella, located at 11th Floor.
Will spend more time following-up on this forum thread...
Cheers! |
Really more and more people aware about this website, great to hear that.. welcome Citygal.. must be girl right!! hehehe
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CityGal
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well..yes, of coz! I think it's great if we can facebook about Atmosfera. I am sure there will be more and more members joining in and share their thoughts.
Sales are picking up really fast last weekend. Am sure it'll be sold off by end of this month! |
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victorchew
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Citygal,
Mine is at block 1 18th floor.
Hope someone can fast fast build up the facebook.
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LL721
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Guest House is indeed a pleasant surprise to me. 
BTW am not aware of guest house facilities in any condo. Anybody care to share info? |
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glass guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Facilities promised not in S&P |
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| Atmosfera wrote: | | chrispar wrote: |
It easy to set it up. But here are a few things that we need to take care with:-
1.) First, of course the domain name. I have mine and I can create a subdomain to hold the forum but Im not very sure whehter it is appropriate. for e.g atmosfera-condo.chrispar.com
2.) Second, the hosting for the forum. I have mine too.. but again is it appropriate?
3.) Who is allowed to access the forum and how to verify their identity if you intend to make this private to only the residents. Else any public forum will do.
4.) MODERATORS, we need a few voluntary member to moderate the posts.
Let's start planning it. Anyway, I m only going to apply for the loan on Monday. |
in that case, why not we set up a meeting somewhere sometime, those interested to involve buyers we sit down and discuss further? is that ok?
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I am all for the setting up of the private forum now. From my standpoint as a former JMB member in my previous condo, let me just say that there will be a lot of fire fighting, battles with the management co, developer etc etc b4 everything settles down to become HOME-SWEET-HOME. I would volunteer my time. pls PM me if u need to talk further. |
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victorchew
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hi All~!!! GOOD DAY~!!!!
I have just already register an account at facebook.
Please you all join me in the facebook.
This is the email - atmosfera.condo@hotmail.com
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lyl
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| victorchew wrote: |
Hi All~!!! GOOD DAY~!!!!
I have just already register an account at facebook.
Please you all join me in the facebook.
This is the email - atmosfera.condo@hotmail.com
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yupe..i have just joined..
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