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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: The Atmosfera by Villamas |
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Not much detail I have about this Condo..
Location: Puchong Jaya, near Villamas apartment, high ground with good KL view.
Freehold
Selling Price: RM297,240 - RM709,891 (From RM261,360 after discount)
Total 453 units.
Looks like more condos are mushrooming in Puchong..
..villamas.com |
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ykk
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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Gee .. the web is still under construction ..
Show unit also not done yet ..
I guess this is more like Atmosfera Vs Zen. IMHO Atmosfera has the upper hand in terms of location as it is closer to major roads like LDP, puchong sg besi and old klang road. High ground with KL view. Not to mention, its freehold.
The road heading to the actual site is kinna zigzag if coming from LDP.. Interestingly, the Koi Kinrara sign board can actually leads to the site location.. |
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travelkl
Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 59
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene jk wrote: | Gee .. the web is still under construction ..
Show unit also not done yet ..
I guess this is more like Atmosfera Vs Zen. IMHO Atmosfera has the upper hand in terms of location as it is closer to major roads like LDP, puchong sg besi and old klang road. High ground with KL view. Not to mention, its freehold.
The road heading to the actual site is kinna zigzag if coming from LDP.. Interestingly, the Koi Kinrara sign board can actually leads to the site location.. |
Zen is leasehold? That explains the premium pricing on Atmosfera compared to Zen.
About the location, you are right. It should be near to Koi Kinrara which will be another 1000 (?) units on-stream by next year. Together with Villamas, Sri Bayu, Impian Heights, this place will be a hotbed of residents and cars parked outside. Wonder how congested will the zigzag access road going to be?
Investors should consider purchasing the shoplots nearby there, cos the captive market is going to be huge in a few years time.  |
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HL
Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 149
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| travelkl wrote: | | eugene jk wrote: | Gee .. the web is still under construction ..
Show unit also not done yet ..
I guess this is more like Atmosfera Vs Zen. IMHO Atmosfera has the upper hand in terms of location as it is closer to major roads like LDP, puchong sg besi and old klang road. High ground with KL view. Not to mention, its freehold.
The road heading to the actual site is kinna zigzag if coming from LDP.. Interestingly, the Koi Kinrara sign board can actually leads to the site location.. |
Zen is leasehold? That explains the premium pricing on Atmosfera compared to Zen.
About the location, you are right. It should be near to Koi Kinrara which will be another 1000 (?) units on-stream by next year. Together with Villamas, Sri Bayu, Impian Heights, this place will be a hotbed of residents and cars parked outside. Wonder how congested will the zigzag access road going to be?
Investors should consider purchasing the shoplots nearby there, cos the captive market is going to be huge in a few years time.  |
Yea.. Koi Kinrara is building 1000 units, almost equivalent to 3 or 4 high rise project density, and they only provide 1 car park per unit. If each unit has extra 1 more car, den there will be 1000 cars parking outside the condo??.. This small little hill will be 1 high density area.. |
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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| HL wrote: | this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
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Hi HL, do you know what kind of promotion they are offering now? |
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tkc
Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 441
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| haiyo, wonder how congested LDP would be when all these condos are completed |
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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| tkc wrote: | | haiyo, wonder how congested LDP would be when all these condos are completed |
Koi Kinrara + Atmosfera + Setia Walk + Zen + Zest ?? |
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HL
Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 149
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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There will be proposed LRT going thru that little hill next to the river and factories, hopefully there will be LRT station in future and that would ease the access and congestion of LDP.
By the way, if LDP congested, you can always use puchong Jaya toward Old Klang road, or even the little road which you can by pass all the congestion to Kesas highway to KL.
what do you guys think? |
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HL
Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 149
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: | this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
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Hi HL, do you know what kind of promotion they are offering now? |
Well, currently 9% early bird discount, and you only pay 1 % for down payment to proceed SPA signing, i got those info during property fair.
Actually I been to the site few times, the showrooms and show gallery are well in progress and they are introducing tropical theme design.I believe they area going to officially launch the project very soon. By the time, i m not sure if the early birth discount would stay.
Yes, i do agreed that this little tiny road leading to this area are a bit small, but Atmosfera entrance is facing toward south which mean there will be a newly built road toward the only condo at this area, location of Koi Kinrara is going down hill, which will not affect the entrance of Atmosfera.
One thing i like this development is that you are sitting on hill top and very quiet environment. |
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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| HL wrote: | | eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: | this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
regards |
Hi HL, do you know what kind of promotion they are offering now? |
Well, currently 9% early bird discount, and you only pay 1 % for down payment to proceed SPA signing, i got those info during property fair.
Actually I been to the site few times, the showrooms and show gallery are well in progress and they are introducing tropical theme design.I believe they area going to officially launch the project very soon. By the time, i m not sure if the early birth discount would stay.
Yes, i do agreed that this little tiny road leading to this area are a bit small, but Atmosfera entrance is facing toward south which mean there will be a newly built road toward the only condo at this area, location of Koi Kinrara is going down hill, which will not affect the entrance of Atmosfera.
One thing i like this development is that you are sitting on hill top and very quiet environment. |
Very attractive package.. the same kind of promotion they did for their Villa Park 2 years back..
As an x-purchaser of Villamas projects, I can say their finishing is quite ok.. But they overlook some facilities due to their inexperience.. Hope they have gathered more experience by now..
Not bad for own stay IMHO.. will pay a visit to their showroom next month..
As for the LRT, I am not sure.. I have seen the MPSJ plan but nvr indicate that a station will be built near bukit tandang.. Beware of salesman's statement.. IMHO, a lot of developers using LRT as selling point in Puchong, better do our homework  |
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HL
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: | | eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: | this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
regards |
Hi HL, do you know what kind of promotion they are offering now? |
Well, currently 9% early bird discount, and you only pay 1 % for down payment to proceed SPA signing, i got those info during property fair.
Actually I been to the site few times, the showrooms and show gallery are well in progress and they are introducing tropical theme design.I believe they area going to officially launch the project very soon. By the time, i m not sure if the early birth discount would stay.
Yes, i do agreed that this little tiny road leading to this area are a bit small, but Atmosfera entrance is facing toward south which mean there will be a newly built road toward the only condo at this area, location of Koi Kinrara is going down hill, which will not affect the entrance of Atmosfera.
One thing i like this development is that you are sitting on hill top and very quiet environment. |
Very attractive package.. the same kind of promotion they did for their Villa Park 2 years back..
As an x-purchaser of Villamas projects, I can say their finishing is quite ok.. But they overlook some facilities due to their inexperience.. Hope they have gathered more experience by now..
Not bad for own stay IMHO.. will pay a visit to their showroom next month..
As for the LRT, I am not sure.. I have seen the MPSJ plan but nvr indicate that a station will be built near bukit tandang.. Beware of salesman's statement.. IMHO, a lot of developers using LRT as selling point in Puchong, better do our homework  |
Hi Eugene, what are the facilities they missed out in Villa Park? can you tell me more, what are the major defects which you have encountered before in villa park? can share with me? thanks a lot |
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0304125
Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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hi guys, im interested in this atmosfera condo too for quite sometime, too bad not much of discussion on this condo until recently.
HL, they launching this project on april, i talked with their agent. btw, the pro are hilltop and quiet? could be the cons too.
hilltop = dangerous?
quiet? i saw factories(not sure what kind of factories) down the hill facing sunway view.
i went to the site few times too, very interested with this project however there's a few things tat holding me back:
1) with 4 condo(koi kinrara, sri bayu, villamas, and impian height) on the hill, i think the road go out will be damn congested?
2) hilltop, is it safe? how's the soil there? the agent told me is solid rock, but i went today and it's raining heavy, and i see many tanah flowing down with the rain water?
3) the price is quite expensive for a condo?
4) carpark, the car park given is 1 in 1 out type, if u want side by side, has to pay xtra 5k. beside that, i saw double park outside of villamas blocking the small road....
just my 2 cents, feel free to comment if u has any opinion in ur mind.
p/s: my main concern is still on the foundation, safety first. |
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0304125
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| HL wrote: | | eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: | this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
regards |
Hi HL, do you know what kind of promotion they are offering now? |
Well, currently 9% early bird discount, and you only pay 1 % for down payment to proceed SPA signing, i got those info during property fair.
Actually I been to the site few times, the showrooms and show gallery are well in progress and they are introducing tropical theme design.I believe they area going to officially launch the project very soon. By the time, i m not sure if the early birth discount would stay.
Yes, i do agreed that this little tiny road leading to this area are a bit small, but Atmosfera entrance is facing toward south which mean there will be a newly built road toward the only condo at this area, location of Koi Kinrara is going down hill, which will not affect the entrance of Atmosfera.
One thing i like this development is that you are sitting on hill top and very quiet environment. |
mind explain more on the bold line? |
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eugene jk
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Kajang
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Eugene, what are the facilities they missed out in Villa Park? can you tell me more, what are the major defects which you have encountered before in villa park? can share with me? thanks a lot |
Nola.. not villa park.. villa park still under construction..
Villamas hav 4 high rise now.. Villamas, Villa Pavilion, Villa Park and Atmosfera (wonder why they change their name convention for this project.. maybe should call Villa Fera :p)
For my apartment, they miss out the garbage room for every floor and admit its a mistake.. We havent seen our BBQ pit as promise..
However, the finishing is at satisfactory level for an apartment standard.. walk ways and corridor are lay with tiles while other apartment just covered with cement. Checkout their previous project..
Please check carefully with the carpark layout, they might offer tandem configuration.. if you can tolerate with it, den it shouldnt be a problem  |
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0304125
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: |
Hi Eugene, what are the facilities they missed out in Villa Park? can you tell me more, what are the major defects which you have encountered before in villa park? can share with me? thanks a lot |
Nola.. not villa park.. villa park still under construction..
Villamas hav 4 high rise now.. Villamas, Villa Pavilion, Villa Park and Atmosfera (wonder why they change their name convention for this project.. maybe should call Villa Fera :p)
For my apartment, they miss out the garbage room for every floor and admit its a mistake.. We havent seen our BBQ pit as promise..
However, the finishing is at satisfactory level for an apartment standard.. walk ways and corridor are lay with tiles while other apartment just covered with cement. Checkout their previous project..
Please check carefully with the carpark layout, they might offer tandem configuration.. if you can tolerate with it, den it shouldnt be a problem  |
tandem mean the 1 in 1 out right? they got option for side by side carpark whereby u need to pay xtra 5k.
i checked the construction material seem like not bad with the sheer wall design, toilet wall tiles up to ceiling, etc, hopefully they wont repeat the same mistakes twice. |
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eugene jk
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yea.. I rather pay the xtra 5k for convenient sake.. moreover, better resale value together with the carpark  |
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0304125
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for the sharing eugene, do u just bought a unit at the zest recently? |
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HL
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| 0304125 wrote: | | HL wrote: | | eugene jk wrote: | | HL wrote: | this forum seem to be very quiet ? thought the developer have sold some units during last 2 property fair at MVC? can the buyer respond, why do you choose this development?
regards |
Hi HL, do you know what kind of promotion they are offering now? |
Well, currently 9% early bird discount, and you only pay 1 % for down payment to proceed SPA signing, i got those info during property fair.
Actually I been to the site few times, the showrooms and show gallery are well in progress and they are introducing tropical theme design.I believe they area going to officially launch the project very soon. By the time, i m not sure if the early birth discount would stay.
Yes, i do agreed that this little tiny road leading to this area are a bit small, but Atmosfera entrance is facing toward south which mean there will be a newly built road toward the only condo at this area, location of Koi Kinrara is going down hill, which will not affect the entrance of Atmosfera.
One thing i like this development is that you are sitting on hill top and very quiet environment. |
mind explain more on the bold line? |
Oh, the newly built road is next to Villamas which facing Sunway, this road currently is a dead end which mean less traffic flow, i do agreed the road leading from Jalan Pipit is quite narrow, but what can we do? complain and complain to Vilamas? since is their project too, if they really want to sell their so called "high-end" condo, they should do something.
well, i been there few times too, apparently the factories are really an eyesore to me, hopefully they don't make much noise. about the soil issue, i believe they will do what ever retaining wall to strengthen the slope, don't think this area will be like Bukit Antarabangsa, no sign of stream, except the river surrounded this Bukit Tandang.
Well, let see, what other will respond, I m still puzzle about this project too, one things really attract me is the building facade and the facilities really their selling points. |
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HL
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi, is me again, i went to Villa Park ( still under construction) they are using shear wall and sand brick (only), but workmanship from outside is good, brick laying very consistent, concrete cast surface are very good too.
Also tried to find my way to Villa Pavillion, finally also got the change to see this condo, Yes Eugene you are right, typical floor tile are quite good for a apartment standard, somemore with design, although not so nice la...
Workmanship for Villa Pavillion not that bad either, plastering quite good, road marking, tar road quality also acceptable, but what i don't like is the kerb are very high, i m almost tripped at the male changing room, the drop is almost 200mm. that is unusual. hope all this they can improve in Atmosfera.
At the typical floor, where the void area is, the developer even put up extension of polycarbonate roof to avoid rain splashing.
Again, i don't like the lift brand called "Dover" what is that? hopefully in Atmosfera they should use branded lift.
The condo maintenance quite OK, look at Villa Pavillon and Villamas, currently they sub out to Henry Butcher..
can further comment if you have any other info to share.. |
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0304125
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| HL wrote: | Oh, the newly built road is next to Villamas which facing Sunway, this road currently is a dead end which mean less traffic flow, i do agreed the road leading from Jalan Pipit is quite narrow, but what can we do? complain and complain to Vilamas? since is their project too, if they really want to sell their so called "high-end" condo, they should do something.
well, i been there few times too, apparently the factories are really an eyesore to me, hopefully they don't make much noise. about the soil issue, i believe they will do what ever retaining wall to strengthen the slope, don't think this area will be like Bukit Antarabangsa, no sign of stream, except the river surrounded this Bukit Tandang.
Well, let see, what other will respond, I m still puzzle about this project too, one things really attract me is the building facade and the facilities really their selling points. |
is it the road that before we go up the hill toward sri bayu, turn left? go straight is up the hill and the left road is the newly built road?
Have you talk to any of the villamas agent before? did they said anything on the retaining wall to strengthen the hill slope? they just told me it's a solid rock, very safe 1 lar, villamas so many years ady lar.... -.-"
actually i like the hilltop env too but i'm a bit worry at the same time esp after that bukit antrabangsa case. the view is nice, full sport facilities is cool, tropical theme suit me, i like quiet env also(hopefully the factories not making much noise too, i wonder what are the factories doing?).
Hopefully fresher air after all the construction (koi kinrara + atmosfera)
and the best part is the 9% discount easy entry.
no ppl interested in this project beside me and HL? i think tis is a nice project personally. looking forward for more ppl to give their opinion. |
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HL
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, going up hill, after sri bayu and Villamas turn left, go further in you will see the earth work is in progress, show unit is not built on thier actual site.
One of the factory look like doing some iron and mild steel things, got some chimney and exhaust, i m not too sure will these release smoke out? hopefully Villamas resident can assist us and tell us, because everytime i went during weekend, they are not working..
by the way, Mr. 0304125, which facing are you looking at? facing KLCC or Sunway? I personally perfered Sunway view which mean pool view. if facing KLCC, you are actually looking at the sewerage treatment plants, and the KLCC is only single tower overlapped, but overall both views are also nice. |
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0304125
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| HL wrote: | Hi, is me again, i went to Villa Park ( still under construction) they are using shear wall and sand brick (only), but workmanship from outside is good, brick laying very consistent, concrete cast surface are very good too.
Also tried to find my way to Villa Pavillion, finally also got the change to see this condo, Yes Eugene you are right, typical floor tile are quite good for a apartment standard, somemore with design, although not so nice la...
Workmanship for Villa Pavillion not that bad either, plastering quite good, road marking, tar road quality also acceptable, but what i don't like is the kerb are very high, i m almost tripped at the male changing room, the drop is almost 200mm. that is unusual. hope all this they can improve in Atmosfera.
At the typical floor, where the void area is, the developer even put up extension of polycarbonate roof to avoid rain splashing.
Again, i don't like the lift brand called "Dover" what is that? hopefully in Atmosfera they should use branded lift.
The condo maintenance quite OK, look at Villa Pavillon and Villamas, currently they sub out to Henry Butcher..
can further comment if you have any other info to share.. |
thanks for the sharing HL, u reali did ur homework well
the developer shld be okay, worth trusting and well known. One of my colleagues rent a studio nearby the villa park, behind tpm that was developed by villamas too, he said the maintenance, management, and the studio were good.
i don worry abt the developer too much reali, the material they use in atmosfera quite good realli, storage heater, mixer, 2 X 2 polished porcelain tiles, sheer wall design, etc.
i still concerning on the foundation... hilltop safe ar???? |
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0304125
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| HL wrote: | Yes, going up hill, after sri bayu and Villamas turn left, go further in you will see the earth work is in progress, show unit is not built on thier actual site.
One of the factory look like doing some iron and mild steel things, got some chimney and exhaust, i m not too sure will these release smoke out? hopefully Villamas resident can assist us and tell us, because everytime i went during weekend, they are not working..
by the way, Mr. 0304125, which facing are you looking at? facing KLCC or Sunway? I personally perfered Sunway view which mean pool view. if facing KLCC, you are actually looking at the sewerage treatment plants, and the KLCC is only single tower overlapped, but overall both views are also nice. |
after sri bayu and villamas then turn left is the show room and the actual site wor? where is the newly built road? i don get u, sorry.
about the factory, i'll check with my fren's cousin who stay at the villamas.
hopefully it's not that bad.
im looking at the sunway view too, the sunway view is the pool view?? really? im a bit lost here. i wondering is the sunway view will be block by the block 2? the building instead of the view, im more concern on where's the morning sun shine will come in? i don wan the sunset one as it will be blardy hot. |
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