Malaysia Real Estate

[Jazz]

[Jazz]

Currently, the so call PREMIUM condo (that was advertised and reiterated by their ED) has now TURNED into a company hostels for workers (could be illegal for all we know)!!! No, not those expats but BUS KILANG workers!! For the price that we paid for condo environment and you are hoping for good neighbours, I am now living in something WORST than flats!! Now, not only the design looks like one but IT IS ONE ALREADY!!

Given that all these workers are women, and from experience, there are always guys that will be coming in and out of the condo and can you imagine the security!!!!??????

I AM STILL SHOCKED AND FLABERGASTED!!

[connie]

dear all

this is my first time here, i read all your messages and complains abt the workmanship and the management of sri putramas, which i do agreed with it.

however, do you all think it would be better if we would work together with the management to improve the situation. I am sure Eva is more than happy to cooperative with us, the owner.

Reason being for me to raise this point is to maintain the value of our property ... by working hand to hand with management only we can maintain the value of the property. I am pretty sure that the MayLand's management will not underestimate the influence power of buyer, they will be more that happy to maintain the relationship with their customer in order to secure their "goodwill", therefore i am sure the management will do something to our request.

I am totally agreed with the painting of the building are sucks and the bus kilang entering the condo is unacceptable. but do the mangment knows about it.

[Jazz]

Well, the way I see it there isn't anyway you can stop the rental. First of all there is a glut and those owners who have bought the property for investment isn't going to let it stay empty and pay all those mortgages (if any!). And the rental has since dropped from $1K to now $800.

So how are you going to stop those owners from renting it out to companies who then turned it into company's hostel!!??? Unless there is a clause in the S&P agreement (which I doubt) that they say it is not allowed, the owners can do anything as long as it is legal.

The fact is that Mayland underestimated the demand by building such high density condo (plus the one next door) at one location. If they have kept it low density and exclusive, I'm sure it will appreciate in value. As I have said before, Sri Putramas looks more like Kuarters Kerajaan than the actual buildings!!!

[brendaclm]

Hi Jazz!

I have view 2 different units at Sir Putramas at block a & c.
I am considering to buy one of the unit at block c.
The unit I saw is quite ok for me but can see there are many things to be changed or renovated.
After viewing your views, I have to think twice as the selling price of the house is not cheap.
RM20X,000 to buy such unit is not cheap.
I hope you can tell me more about the management there. As i understand, the management fee is not cheap.
I wish to receive more comment before i made up my mind in buying that unit.

[Jazz]

Frankly speaking, I like the design of the units...just wish master bedroom is bigger though. I don't have the need for such big living room.

RM20XK is expensive / cheap depending on the original price of the unit. For example, I am at the high floor and my purchase price is already RM207 plus lawyers fees, etc, etc, etc. And a friend of mine pays the same amount for a unit at 8th floor with KLCC view which incidentally was blocked by Royal Domain. So it really depends.

The maintenance cost per month is RM0.20 per sq foot X 1050 or 1100 you will have your total...plus (YES PLUS!!) about $12 per month for sinking fund. Total a month comes up to RM230++.

Actually, given how depressing the market is and the "undesirability" of the whole situation right now, maybe you can get a bargain provided you negotiate with the owner? Just a thought. And don't expect to make a profit if you are doing it for investment. For own stay, its OK. Relatively quiet (depends whether you are near the rail tracks or not!) place and if you not next door to the Indonesian workers / factory workers.

My friend bought a unit at Royal Domain but sold it just as Sri Putramas was complete and made a cool net RM15K!!! He bought it for getting married and sold it when it didn't work out. So I guess its luck. But I wouldn't advise it for investment. High density and god knows when you can get a decent return.

[hongkia]

Hi all

I'm the owner of Block E, it seems block E and F are start running the defect work and I assume they are some ppl will be start shifting in the following month(s).

Thus, it is important as we are the resident, do we have any community being formed? I wonder do we have a community body with coorperation between all residents as well as a Community Head in place. It is good for us to voice out any unsatisfaction in the future regards to the management "UNKNOWN" actions/plans.

Anyone have ideas?

regards.

[kekura]

i totally agree with skodeng to set up a dedicated website for sri putramas. I've seen one (..usj.com.my) and that really helps a lot by providing much information to the community, especially for future tenant. Since we are all work 9 to 5 everyday, it is impossible to get together and discuss about our living enviroment, unless with this e-community.

i had purchased a royal domain unit and according to the S&P the unit should be completed by february 2007 (3yrs construction). Even after reading this forum, I still have faith in Mayland. I have checked with my friends who bought unit from Talam, MK Land etc.. and they also voiced out the same workmanship issue. To simplify, no developer could make a perfect unit.

actually, i really like to know other than workmanship matters from those already living there, how the living condition is like there in sri putramas eg. train noise, mosquitoes from river nearby, noise from traffic in Jln Kuching, and even the communication accessibility particularly STREAMYX. Is streamyx supported in that area?!!! Cant live without internet hehe..... Anyway, if the place is crowded with factory workers as mentioned, OMG! Hope will not become like Pelangi Damansara that was shown in Edisi Siasat "Foreign workers nowadays are high standard, living in condos".

and investment wise, i read that Low Yat Group is going to develop Jalan Ipoh (Batu 3) with shopping malls, office towers, condo etc. Now they already selling Rivercity condo but I am not sure the exact location. I also read that Duta-Segambut is now a hotspot area... many developers target that area for luxury houses and condos like Sutramas, Changkat Tiara, Kensington, Hartamas Regency, Anggun Puri. With all that, the place will be crammed like hell but.. well, who knows if the soon-to-be-completed flyovers will compensate. cheers!

[wester]

i bought SP ph2, recently did the checking on my unit... very very dissapointed... this is what i get:

• defect doors - broken door & was hammer with nails, chip door & all rooms door knob r rusty & loose

• leakage fr their piping

• uneven wall surface in living room, humps, harline craks in room's corner

• additional socket point - badly done & big gap

• bad tiling

many more... shitzzzz & damn... really wtf

is the above common defects for most property?

[Jazz]

Hello Wester....welcome to Mayland world. As a matter of fact, I did take a peek at Phase 2 and trust me, you are getting a better deal than the 1st phase. Some of us have to deal with rusty loosen balcony railings, cracked doors that took MONTHS to change, none of the windows or door knobs that works, fungus in 50% of the walls (if lucky), cracked tiles, uneven floors, no finishing at ALL the windows or the bathrooms, clogged toilets, weeping walls, lopsided windows / doors, and cracks all over. Yours are just baby stuff.

Anyway, FYI, the residents are going to have a grouse meeting on 31 March 2005 at 8:30 p.m at the Club House.

[ckchong97]

please keep me update on the outcome of the meeting.

B08-01

[kekura]

yeah please update us, jazz.......

[Jazz]

Sorry guys...I didn't go to the meeting because was at work....my boss draining the last drop of blood from me.

[Jazz]

But will try to call the organiser and see what had transpired. Anybody else attended and have some feedback?

[Jazz]

OK..these are the feedback I got from the organiser:-

* Temporary Residence Committee has been formed and they will have a meeting next Monday. They will prepare an official complaint letter to the management giving them 1 month to resolve the issues.

* Another notice for meeting will be distributed soon and everyone is encouraged to attend.

Issues discussed were:-

* Parking for Block B residence at Block C carpark is too inconvenient especially during rainy days.

* Issues about stray dogs and cats - dangerous in view of the recent attack of dog on small children

* Low water pressure for higher floors even with water pumps

* Working with the owners who rented out to Indonesia / Bangladesh workers.

* Security issues: There was a robbery at Block B during the CNY period and the family lost about RM15,000. The Security Guards at each block are also ineffective. They don't even stop anyone without the access cards from going into the building. Not to mention they are likely to be illegal workers (looks like it).

* General Cleanliness of the area is poor.

* Other non-urgent issue such as those residences who bought and paid for the KLCC view is now blocked by Royal Domain which incidentally also under Mayland.

I think the most URGENT is the security issue. After all, most of us bought condos are for the secured environment. Not to mention the high maintenance fees we pay each month. Even the low or medium cost apartments in Kota Damansara is now a gated property at very low monthly fee - for like RM8 a month!!! And frankly, I don't see the quality difference.

[ckchong97]

thanks for the update!! Hope the management office will do something on the discussed matters especially on security.

[Jazz]

Well, do attend the next residence meeting...the temp committee is going to give early notice and the more people, the more serious the management will take us.

[Jazz]

Its getting more dangerous living in Sri PUtramas!! I was home late one evening last week at about midnight...and after getting down from my car, I was followed by a PACK of wild dogs!!! They were not that afraid of humans but I was TERRIBLY afraid as I was carrying food...they would'nt go away because of the smell!!

Usually, I see a stray here and there and didn't give much thought but this is like a PACK!!! There were like 4 - 5 of them!! Given the recent mauling by dogs in the newspaper, I wonder if this is an incident waiting to happen?

And on top of that, there was no water supply over the weekend. Tried calling the guard house and was informed that it was due to water pressure and that only high floors were affected. I asked him to call the maintenance or the management and he replied that they don't have a outgoing telephone line!!! Nor telephone numbers to call in case of emergencies!!!!! I wouldn't dare imagine what would happen if there is a fire and the owners aren't home. Probably the guards will just watch the whole thing and say, "Ya, we can't call because we don't have a phone"!!

I don't know about the neighbours though....since I have "lost" 2 sets of newspapers over the weekend. You thought you won't face such situation living in a condo. As a matter of fact, my friend who is living in the medium cost apartment said that they don't have such problem at their area.

[Jazz]

Can you believe what flew in my balcony last night???? A almost 4" Praying Mantis!! How on earth are they able to fly so high? And trust me I am definitely living in one of the high floors and its a looooooooong way from the ground to my condo.

Does anybody knows what that means?

[Belle]

Maybe u guys shd get TV3 or Star Metro to go over to highlight the dog issue, esp since many families in Sri Putramas have small children. It's not safe and the dogs may have skin diseases and fleas - imagine if the dogs sleep on the slides in the playground at night, or if they decide to take a drink from the swimming pool.

And isn't it strange since u are not allowed to keep dogs as pets but there are stray dogs wandering around the premises?

[ginbeam]

I am not a Sri Putramas unit owner but I am as concern as you all for I bought myself a unit in Royal Domain. But nonetheless, this is how i see things...

[Jazz]

Since you are not a resident of Sri Putramas, I am not sure why you are adding your two cents worth. It is always the case of people not feeling the pain when it is not right up their arse!! I am just wondering how you would react if you found 20 factory workers living next to your unit??? Will you go like, "Yes, the rent is dirt cheap!" or will you bang your head against the wall?

If I remembered correctly, I did mentioned that the factory workers weren't the management's problem in my previous post. So, we are not some unreasonable residents ranting here.

The residents here are trying to work with the issues and hopefully, we can get a better environment than we bargained for. The advertisements for Sri Putramas is definitely MISLEADING!! as it is not a condominium but a medium-cost apartments as it appeared in our S&P. The club house is just to jazz it up a little.

Why am I still living there? Well, duh!! Its sunk cost!

Why am I comparing with low-cost apartments? Because I have a friend who is staying at one and I find the environment clean and tidy, the neighbour are families and they are no people stealing your newspapers - and that's for half the price that I paid for.

200K may not be a great deal of money to you but then, it is a huge sum to some of us and we are trying to make the best out of our investment. And hopefully salvage the situation.

I supose it is very easy for you to "claim" we are idiots for not paying attention to the details when we make our purchases but then, when the pain is not in your nether region, you probably find it hard to empathise. You should see some of the owners face after they have gone to see their units for the 1st time at Phase 1 - utter disappointment and despair! I was one of them. And you have to wait and wait and wait and wait while the management try to fix things up and there you are paying rental as well as mortgage! Its a no win situation, if you can't wait; either you fix it up yourself which is going to cost a bomb! or you live with the defects!

By the way, my window handle just broke on me yesterday it was made of steel (or maybe seem like steel). Now, I am not sure if that's normal but in the previous condo that I was living in, it doesn't seem to be that flimsy. Hmmm.....????

[doverpark]

I've collected my keys recently for block F. Its such a dissapointment. I've read all your complaints, so i'll share with you some of my complaints that no one has mentioned.

If there's one word to describe it, its - CHEAP.

Entrance - why's there a cheap alunimiun glass door? Is the lift area air-conditioned?

Lift area - why's there a "Pintu Rintangan Api" which is supposed to be shut all the time. Imagine the inconvinience turning the slippery knob & pushing the heavy door every time you go in or out. This door really give it a warehouse/factory atmosphere.

Corridor - anyone feels funny while walking along the narrow corridor with low board ceiling & yellowish lighting? I thinks its claustophobia. I can touch walls on both sides without extending my arm fully.

Floor layout - to those who bought non-corner units; you have my deepest condolence. Your room 2 & 3 really sucks. Your windows either face the dark corridor or you have a single window with a narrow view with walls on both sides. Looked like they tried to squeeze in as many units as possible. Cheap.

Ceiling - not very obvious but i did measure it. Its about 6 inches lower compared to the apartment im staying now. Two layers of bricks per floor surely do add up in terms of cost. Again cheap.

Window - i know its not stated in S&P how the window should be but when i was looking at the model in the showroom, i'm very sure i saw generous windowsills on every window. What i got now are bare windows with no trace of windowsill. Very cheap.

Bathroom - notice how the bathroom windows promotes good neigbourhood? While taking a shower, you can look out & have an face-to-face chat with your neigbours. Cheap architect i guess.

Noise - i think this is bad news to those who bought units facing the pool expecting less noise from Jln Kuching. Its only slightly less noisy; i believe because all the other blocks facing you are reflecting the noise back to you.

Just to be balance & to cheer you up a little, i'll list some good points that come to mind.

The swimming pool area is nice & classy.

The guards are quite friendly to strangers like me.

Thats all i can think off.

[Pineapple]

The ads in the newspapers actually looked quite interesting to me (potential buyer) but this forum is quite enlightening also.

How wide are the corridors? 3-4 ft? and how high is the ceiling? 9ft? what colour are the internal walls? and how long does the developer take to fix the defects? Do block E & F seem to have the same quality problem as A, B, C, or better quality this time?

[doverpark]