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stillLooking · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 34

I asked the salesperson at the show unit and she described the same thing like what bluesky wrote, the highway will pass through Jalan 1/155A which is the road in front of the condo.

But I'm just wondering how badly this highway will impact Savanna and Arena Green (the apartments next to Savanna site) residents, I mean for those units that are not directly facing that direction.

From the units prices, the cheapest units are the ones facing this road i.e. going to face the highway later. Most expensive are the ones facing golf course and KLCC.

maxtor · Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 55

if the condo is up... and the highway starts their construction...

will this cause any wall crack like those new houses in seri petaling...

more info can be found in sripetaling.net

propcritic · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 254

Not sure about the actual plan of the highway in front of Savanna and Arena Green but if the highway runs across the entrances of both, the current residents of Arena who park their cars (lots of them) at the entrance will be in trouble. Probably that explains the need for 3 car parks at Savanna. Rarely do projects offer 3 car parks unless they foresee major problems in the future. I wouldn't bet on this Savanna project as it sounded pretty dodgy (no stickers on units sold). For those serious buyers, you should consider Green Avenue (almost completed and much better access)
Savanna is definitely overpriced in Bukit Jalil. In fact, for RM388,000 you can get a landed, freehold, gated, 3 storey and with 2500 sft (built-up excluding garden) terrace unit at Mutiara Bukit Jalil. Access for Mutiara Bukit Jalil is definitely not as good but the most expensive Savanna unit is actually going for RM319,880 (1248 sft built-up excluding garden).

bluesky · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 25

I can see the Savanna construction site and Jalan 1/155A from Vista Komanwel. the 6 lanes highway is probably 50m away from block A unlike 2m in sri petaling's case. Wall crack might not be a big concern for me.

More important thing is the noice and jam. 6 lanes highway, about 50m away. Will you still enjoy the golf view there? I doubt so.

blue.sky · Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 265

stillLooking · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 34

propcritic · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 254

I will definitely stay away from Savanna. Highway in front of the entrance is a big turn-off for me.

Malaysian · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 140

Wow, only 1 day I didn't check the forum and already so much new info (and of course some speculation la Wink

). Regarding the highway cutting through the area, I got to admit I didn't see any MAP plan of the project and area when I went to their showroom. Some developers actually put up a detailed map of the surrounding area, so that you can see where are the forest reserve (example), potential new housing projects, commercial area etc.

They did have a overall map, but it was very generalized and you couldn't see the details. I certainly didn't notice any highway!

bluesky · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 25

Ask the sales guy regarding the highway. The guy is called Melvin.

Besides, observe carefully, there is a papan kenyataan (board that all development work must have, stating the highway information, developer.....) along the road, quite near to the sales office. If the highway is not passing by this road, why is the board there?

Don't be silly expecting Berjaya to tell you the truth.

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stillLooking · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 34

Thanks for the info Goliath.

Since the reviews for Savanna have not been so good so far, was just wondering if there's anyone who has actually booked a unit or considering it... hmm... hmm... or is that a silly question?!

hiucf · Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 439

visited savanna showhouse again yesterday...mmmm.. only close to 20% sold. I think Berjaya fengshui not so good le these few years, all their projects sangkut. Time Square, Savanna, MiTV etc.

Question · Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Klang Valley

hiucf, that's very interesting news - only 20% sold. Hope u can share with us how sure u are about this. I mean, did the sales people actually showed u their chart of sales so far? Thanks!!
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bluesky · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 25

I passed by the sales office last Sunday morning and evening. The office is too quiet. Only 1 or 2 cars paking there. Those might be the sales persons' cars.

JamesBond · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 108

I personally think this project is too expensive and the prices may even drop upon completion. Just wait and see, if sales are currently less than 20% (according to forummers) the prices might just drop along the way to attract buyers. Many investors are worried that interest rates may be going up and there could be a slowdown in the property market. Savanna is definitely not a good buy for its price and location. Very congested and too close to new highway.

cblee · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 219

Highway is difinitely passing the area and going to join the Bukit Jalil near TPM. Therefore, if you did not find in the Map in showroom office because nobody will buy if it appear.

The price is expensive also and if the price between 230-260K, it already sell out. Now Arena Green people sare shifting to Jalil Damai Aprt in Bandar Bukit Jalil as the traffic is horrible.

Yes Mutiara Bukit Jalil is better wiith the price tag of 388K and it is freehold. Freehold land in Bukit Jalil confine to 2 places only : Bandar Bukit Jalil (Ho Hup) and Mutiara Bukit Jalil (Dolomite).

hiucf · Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 439

Hi Question, I looked at the block chart and actually counted the units with stickers...obviously less than 20%. Spoken to the salesgirl too and she admitted sales is slow due to many buyers are aware of the coming-up highway.

I think three reasons contributed to weak sales i) Highway ii) Price is too high when they are better alternatives nearby iii) Expectation of interest hike. I would agree though if they set the price in the range of RM220K to RM250K...80% would have been sold by now.

bluesky · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 25

So, finally they have put on the stickers.

BTW, has anyone seen Savanna's ads in The Star or NST? I have only seen it twice in Sin Chew. Seems like Berjaya is not serious enough in pushing this Savanna. Or... maybe Berjaya think that their property is already branded, no need advertisement.

The other thing that I'm really pissed off is the outdoor badminton court. What is that for? Probably for kids. Anyway, this is just my opinion.

hiucf · Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 439

Ops forgotten this piece...sales person told it is possible to negotiate for discount too but at head office in Bkt Bintang, especially for arena Green, Green Field and Green Avenue buyers.

bluesky · Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 25

wah, got such thing? Meaning if I bought Arena Green, Green Field or Green Avenue, I can request for discount for Savanna? How many percent?

I think Berjaya will throw in discount and freebies sooner or later for Savanna.

Question · Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Klang Valley

Malaysian · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 140

Look what I found. There's a review of this project by this blogsite:

..propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2005/11/03/savanna-bukit-jalil/

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November 3, 2005
Savanna, Bukit Jalil
Filed under: Developers, New Launches
Bukit Jalil is really turned into one of the fastest growing residential areas in southern KL. It started with the Vista Commonwealth, together with the National Sports complex, then Technology Park Malaysia, IMU and then the housing developments starting sprouting up from Sri Petaling all the way to Puchong. Some people view it as one of the more promising growth in South KL, whereas some people feel that it is nearing over-development.

And right smack in the middle of Bukit Jalil, in what can be said as the last piece of prime land in Bukit Jalil proper, is Savanna, developed by Berjaya Group. Vincent Tan’s mega-corporation has a few projects in this area, like the Greenfields and Green Avenue condominiums, and the sprawling Bukit Jalil Golf Resort.

Now a bit about the location. It directly opposite the National Stadium in Bukit Jalil, IMU on a much higher ground on one side, existing condos on one side. And on the other side, there’s an unimpeded view of the golf resort. With this landlocked property, the prime advantage is that there will be no more new developments next to you. But of course, you’ll be paying for this luxury.

Now, some other advantages: LRT station is within walking distance. Good road network. Near KL, Puchong and southern landmarks like Cyberjaya and Putrajaya. And TPM.

Disadvantages? There’s the stadium just opposite you. Come weekends, you’ll have huge problems getting in and out of your apartment. Trust us, it will happen. Not to mention the Turf Club down the road. Then there’s the price, but we’ll get to it in a moment.

The site is on a large, narrow, triangular piece of land. There are two blocks of apartments, yet there is still plenty of open spaces used for jogging area, landscaped parks, sports facilities and more open spaces. The back portion of the apartment is on suspended slab, perched on the slopes of the existing hill, with a long driveway to enjoy the scenery.

As a full-fledged condo, this place probably has everything you’d expect. Clubhouse, top-notch security, infinity pool (eh?) and glass gym.

One of the main selling points of the apartment is that they are provided three parking bays free of charge to each unit. At least we won’t see cars parked on the main road at night, just like the condo next to this one (double and even triple parked).

There are three basic unit designs, ranging all around the 1200sq.ft (give and take). Each unit type has three type of variations: standard, with garden terrace and with balcony. To understand the unit configuration, there are five levels of parking (that’s how they can provide 3 parking bays for each unit). Then comes the common facilities level. So the first unit is actually on the 7th floor, and all those are the ones with garden. Above the garden units are 3 to 4 floors of units with balconies. Above that, there are all standard units. Confusing? Check out the scale model and it will all become clear.

Garden units are quite popular these days, attractive to these who want some greenery in their unit but do not want a landed property. We’re not keen to see people upstairs throw cigarette butts into our garden, although the developer may argue buyers here are more upmarket and thus more civic-minded (nope, we still think it’ll happen). These units are the priciest.

We won’t into the details of the unit designs, but they all have 3+1 rooms (hence the 3+1+3 marketing tagline – the last ‘3’ refers to the parking). Of the 3 almost similar unit, we prefer type A (1,212sq.ft). And we’ll probably choose the non-balcony (regular reader will know why) and the no-garden one (reason given above). Type C is similar, but with the addition of a narrow triangular study attached to the living. Type B didn’t catch our fancy, the design is a bit unconventional.

There are three choices of view – Golf view, KLCC view and Cheras view (Why would anyone want to… oh, never mind).

We feel Savanna has potential for good investment returns, judging from the surrounding apartments. At 1200sq.ft, they are targeting small to medium families, professionals and long term rental market. Facilities and golf view a big draw. At the moment, only block A is open for sale. Price starts at RM200psf.

What else can we say? Good facilities, location can be a double-edged sword, seasoned developer, stiff pricing. That all-important LRT.

Project Name Savanna
Location Bukit Jalil
Description 22-storey twin block condominium development with facilities
Land type Freehold residential
Price RM238,880 to RM435,880
Land Encumbrances MayBank
Unit size 1,179sq.ft to 1,281sq.ft
No of units 408 units
(for two blocks)
Launch Date currently available
Expected Completion October 2008
Developer Berjaya Golf Resort Berhad
(subsidiary of Berjaya Land Berhad)
Contact 03 – 2935 8188, 03-2142 8028
Website ..berjayaproperties.com