Malaysia Real Estate

seshatri · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 97

Hello friends,
Sorry for not replying for long time. I'm now stationed at client's office and don't have net access. anyway, I've got the letter from dev and when to ask about the interest charges. They asked me to write to the dev. so just faxed the letter requesting to waive the interest yesterday to Ms. Tan (dev).

Just called and checked the outcome. Spoke to Rachel and she said will only know the outcome by next Thursday. So have to wait till next week to collect the keys...

If i'm not mistaken, once we checked & confirmed the defects, the deelopers should rectify withing 2 weeks. I think it should be stated in the S&P. If they prolong, we have the rights to appoint our own contractors and claim the charges from developer.

I agree with shamalis. 5K for reno is too expansive. We need to go in a group to nego the deposit. And I thing it's best to talk to the Project Manager. Talking to Christ will not bring us any good.

august_wind · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 70

hi seshatri... long time no reply ya。。thx for the information.. we need to work all this.a lot of thing i am very not understand because this is my first time buy new house anyway. pls do something i will support ...

august_wind · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 70

malvin · Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

once we submit the defect list, they got 30 days to rectify the defect under our s&p stated. we cant engage 3rd party when they cant completed the defect. we can only submit quotation for outstanding list and get approval from the dev. ( all are stated in s&p )

for my unit the major defect : - hollow and un-even tiles (wall and floor)
- different colour tone of patching mark.
to all my friend pls check u defect detail dont let that chris so easy life.
submit u defect list as long as posible.

thanx

shamalis · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 35

Dear seshatri,

nice 2 hear from u again.....

dear neighbours.....

as malvin said....dun let dev. "goyang kaki"....my defects are a lot....leaking are everywhere....plug & switch points are uneven not in line....all doors not properly install as u can see the door not properly closed (close d door & u will see a space & not properly shut) hv some space....tiles joints some of it are not plastered....wall tiles at kitchen are hollow (pls knock all the wall tiles)...dun forget 2 check all the toilet wall tiles too....

regards to the floor joints plaster...i dun like the grey cement plaster as white plaster cement is more nicer....(dev. cut cost???) Twisted Evil

yeah b4 i forgot pls check all ur window panels & hinges carefully as some of it are rusty...

remember not 2 let them go easy...now we hv all d rights too.... Twisted Evil

Shirlene Yap · Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 17

Shirlene Yap · Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 17

Shirlene Yap · Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 17

Hi my dear neighbours,

Hope we can form a committe to reduce the deposit RM5K. Of cause, the RM5K can be returnable, but what the reason we should paid RM5K for a deposit even we only do some grill works? And RM5K can be do a lot of renoworks already. Anyway, before u make the decision (especially in-house contrator), please survey the price 1st. See whether the price is reasonable or not. Dun let the devil contractor sucking our hard earn money..... Razz

Have a nice day Razz

hylee_1981 · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: RM 5K Deposit for any works

Dear All my Neighbours,

I just got my keys today. My unit seems ok.....maybe it was the later stage of construction work at 12th floor, so they do the work slowly i guess....but i agree the tiles workmanship is poor....

I spoke to another young guy....forgot what's his name....he told me that even doing some simple electrical fitting work, we also need to inform them and pay 5K deposit....the reason being is they worry anything goes wrong during the works....they will check and give back the deposit in 2 weeks time!!!

Then I complaint this is not considerate, fitting some lights ceiling fans also need to pay 5K deposit, not fair at all....then the guy told me actually i can ask the in house contractor to settle everything for me, then no need to pay deposit loh....ahaaa....now i know the tricks....

I looked at the front door grill, although it is not a nice design, but the material is solid and reliable....and b'coz i don't want to have muh trouble, so i decided to take the grill from the in house contractor....sorry for not standing hard against the developer....

Another issue concerning me is the car park. I have two cars to park....Previously Chris told me that they will rent out some car parks...but now they decided to sell all the car park from 18K to 23 K....at first I thought of buying one...but after serious consideration, i rather park my at the road side loh....crazy meh....one car park already cost you 10% of the unit price....they thought here is Singapore !!??....

Wish to meet you all soon....I will move in after this Chinese Ghost Month....probably in the middle of September...

august_wind · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 70

ok lah maybe grill can use the inhouse contrator but i need to install astro lah aircond this and that small small thing like curtain rod also need to pay rm5k????I still didt get my key but the letter from developer about the cf that i already receive from 1st of august....i need to move in asap lah

Bryan Low · Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 83

I am Bryan from Public Bank,anything enquiry about property loan and financing you can just give me a sms or call me if you williing to.If you sms me then i can call you back too.Thanks

Bryan
012-9546216
Public Bank Berhad

miss Y · Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 3

At first, we also plan to move in ASAP, but thinking of the devil developer,everything need to pay deposit RM5K, 5k,5k, as if everyday we go to work just only for 'chop duit'.!!!!. End up,dont know when to move in.

seshatri · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 97

Can I suggest that if any of you have experience in Legal, can we write up a letter stating that the 5k deposit is too high for our condo, and we suggest an agreeable amt by all the residents (maybee like 1k), attach with all our signature and fax it to the developer. We also cc copy to housing ministry and all other relevant authorities.

hylee, regarding the parking, I was informed that they will rent out extra parking lots when I bought the condo. Why they suddenly change it. Isn't that cheating. Promising us something when we buy but later change to another thing. We should also fight for this. I mean if people want to buy extra parking lots, I have no objection but the developer cannot force us to buy one.. They should rent out a lot if we require.

We should meet up ASAP and discuss about these issues.

shamalis · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 35

yep...agree....we hv 2 meet up asap but we hv 2 team up with more owners 2 do that....how???

hylee,

ur hse ok? no wonder our unit 11th floor quite bad ye? hehehe....

Eimy Kinetic · Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 32

Hi Guys

Agree with the Renjanians Committee. We need to have a leader here and list of items to be highlighted to the developer.

august_wind · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 70

yes yes i agree with you guys....i will no1 to support the team..i am ready...i am looking to rent the car park..but some condo the our who buy then they just try to rent it out as i know....i still didnt get the key i am try to go there but dont know are they will let in or not since i didnt get the stakeholder letter ..... Sad

hylee_1981 · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:

Dear All,

I agree with Seshatri to write in a letter to reduce the deposit figure....5K is too much.....but i worry that we cannot do anything as it is stated in the contract document already...we should blame ourselves for not looking into the lines seriously....

For the parking issue, I suggest none of us buying an extra parking from them...then the developer will have no choice but to rent out the extra car parks later on....I know that some of the residents might really want to buy the parking lot....but I feel that it is not worth it....don't be trapped by the developer....if we unite, they cannot do anything....don't give them a chance to suck money from us....the problem is, not everyone is reading this forum....i heard from Chris that some of us already paid deposit for the car park...aih.....what to do......

One more issue is the security....there seems to be no auto gate at the guard house at the moment....and you will notice that there are few outsiders (agents, Interior Designer, contractor, etc....) waiting at there everytime you go in....strangers are loitering in our compound....the security is not tight as far as i concern.....

Chris and the young engineer told me that there is a requirement from the MPAJ to form a resident commitee as soon as possible....thus, i think the developer will also take initiative to form the commitee...I think we better meet up and get to know each other soon....

On top of all problems....we should overcome them with our joys of handling the keys of our new house....let us make our new living place a peace and happy one....hehehehehe....

jirehjane · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 22

To all my dear neighbours,

Just managed to get the internet access and read all your kind advise regarding defects in your units. This is a very good sign that even though we have not met, we are all working as a team.

Firstly, before any one of you pay the developer the 10% late payment, please check all your document with your Financiar if the progressive billings were made on time. As for me, the Developer was correct in charging me the 10% late payment as my Financiar delayed the payment. I am discussing with my Financiar if they can abosrb this.

Secondly, about the 5K Renovation Deposit, Hylee is it true it is in our contract ? ayoo I really did not read the thick contract. I heard from one of my close friend who works with a high-end condo in Sri Hartamas, that they only collect Renovation Deposit of 1K only !!!!!!!!!! She advised me that all of us write a petition with our signature to request the Developer to reduce this.

Finally, we need to meet up before we meet at Renjana Ampang, so that the Developer will realize that we are close, strong and a big team. Very Happy

I guess, we just need to put on this forum, our unit, floor, name and where we work and perhaps our profession ( if you guys think is not too personal ). Only then we can move on from here. We can decide a date to meet, I have created the following detail, perhaps you may copy the headings and update your detail. Someone then can compile this and we can already decide a possible date and venue to meet.

To start of :

Name - Jane & Shan
Floor - 12-6 ( facing greens )
Collect Key - 24th Aug 2008
Inspection Date- 24th Aug 2008
Renovation - Fitting of cabinets ONLY ( hopefully will take 2 weeks )
Plan to Move in - Oct 2008
Working - KL - Sultan Ismail - Hotelier

seshatri · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 97

Dear all my future neighbours... I have created a group so that whatever we discussed there would be only accessible to the group members..

Please join the group and continue the discussion there...

Also please update your details in the renjana.xls file for our reference...

Best regards..
Sesha

..groups.google.com/group/renjana

jirehjane · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 22

Hi Sesha,

I tried to access the link you created, but it's asking me to create a new gmail account. Is there anyway we can access this link without creating a new account ? Please advise. thanks - Jane

jirehjane · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 22

Hi Sesha,

Managed to access the Renjana Group via gmail account. Membership pending subject to approval by the Group Manager. Are you teh moderator ? rgds Jane

hylee_1981 · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject:

Eimy Kinetic · Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 32

I hv joined the group. Pls approve Wink

Perhaps to include contact no / medium of contact (e-mail, etc) to reach u guys (if u don't mind)

malvin · Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

to all my fren

can i suggest something when we are form a group to nego for renovation deposit.

pay 500- 1k for
minor renovation - like install grill, electrical fitting, plaster ceiling

pay 1k - 2k
major renovation - like hacking of wall, kitchen cabinet, additional power point (with conseal piping), replace new tiles. (all this create lot of rubbish then we pay more its ok rite)

1 more thing i need to ask its they request any disposal bin or approval from majilis when we do renovation. what i know is all landed property need to apply all about b4 do any renovation.

thanx