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wildquest
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| cynthusc wrote: |
Actually, the amount charged is pretty reasonable. Unfortunately most people mistakenly believe that lawyers have control over stamp duty. Stamp Duty is a form of tax. This amount is paid to the government and not to the lawyer. If you would like to pay it when the notice of assessment comes out you may do so at a later stage.
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Hi cynthusc!
Thanks for the reply. It was explained to me pretty much the same way when I spoke to a couple of other lawyers as well. Finally decided to work with one whom I felt most comfortable with! Now getting the S&P drafted out and figuring my next steps...  _________________ ~*~*~*~ |
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vodka
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Hi All,
I am also getting ready to buy a condo (Freehold) at 280k, 2nd hand unit.
Can someone let me know how much extra do i need to prepare for all the fees? (Legal fees, MOT...etc)? |
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cynthusc
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 310
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| vodka wrote: | Hi All,
I am also getting ready to buy a condo (Freehold) at 280k, 2nd hand unit.
Can someone let me know how much extra do i need to prepare for all the fees? (Legal fees, MOT...etc)? |
Hi Vodka,
Legal Fees (assuming without strata title)
S&P and DOA - RMRM2410.00
5% tax - RM120.50
Disbursments
Stamping of S&P - RM40.00
Stamping of DOA - RM30.00
Adjudication of DOA - RM10.00
Land Search - RM30 per title
Other charges - RM100
Total Legal Fees : RM2740.50
Stamp Duty - RM4,600.00 |
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vodka
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
What if the prop already has strata title? ANy difference? |
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fzAy
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Ampang, KL
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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How much I have to pay for loan amount of RM 114,000.00 (Completed Condo).  |
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vodka
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hi cynthusc,
Thanks. Could you provide me your email add for me to correspond with you on the details of the quote?
Thanks. |
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cynthusc
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 310
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| vodka wrote: | Hi cynthusc,
Thanks. Could you provide me your email add for me to correspond with you on the details of the quote?
Thanks. |
cynthusc@yahoo.com |
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walksay
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 423 Location: Bayu Courtyard Home TBJ
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: buy 90% completed apartment |
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hi to all SIFUs....
i plan to buy a serviced apartment from developer. almost 90% completed. freehold and no strata title yet. S&P price 148K. planning to take 100% gov. loan
question is:
1) is this properties protect under HDA?
2) still need to pay Deed of Assignment?
3) how long normally we can extent progressive payment for 1st disbursement for this case?
4) what thing should i taking care for this kind of purchase? fees, warranty, maintenance and etc.
thank you sifu 4 your time. |
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hannie

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 24
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| vodka wrote: |
What if the prop already has strata title? ANy difference? |
Yea, would like to know abt that...anyone could assist?
Also, if I'm buying a condo with tenant through bank loan, does it mean I've gotta pay for 3 different agreements:
1) Loan Facility Agreement (some banks pay for the legal fees)
2) Sale and Purchase Agreement
3) Tenancy Agreement
Or is there a possibility of combining 2 & 3 in one documentation to save on stamp duty / misc charges?? |
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cynthusc
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 310
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| hannie wrote: | | vodka wrote: |
What if the prop already has strata title? ANy difference? |
Yea, would like to know abt that...anyone could assist?
Also, if I'm buying a condo with tenant through bank loan, does it mean I've gotta pay for 3 different agreements:
1) Loan Facility Agreement (some banks pay for the legal fees)
2) Sale and Purchase Agreement
3) Tenancy Agreement
Or is there a possibility of combining 2 & 3 in one documentation to save on stamp duty / misc charges?? |
2&3 you may combine. The difference in strata title and without is in the disbursements. Depending on the price of the Property, you may pay more for the registration of the transfer for property with strata title. However we are talking about RM100-RM200 difference and not in the thousands. You may want to enter a private caveat for properties with title and if so, there is an additional RM620 - this however is optional.
Regards |
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hannie

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| cynthusc wrote: |
The difference in strata title and without is in the disbursements. Depending on the price of the Property, you may pay more for the registration of the transfer for property with strata title. However we are talking about RM100-RM200 difference and not in the thousands. You may want to enter a private caveat for properties with title and if so, there is an additional RM620 - this however is optional.
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Does it mean it costs more to buy a property with strata title?
What's "private caveat for properties with title", ie. what's the value/benefit in it?
Sorry if i asked a too simple question - truly a baby in this highly-professional industry of properties  |
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dchai74
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| cynthusc wrote: | | vodka wrote: | Hi All,
I am also getting ready to buy a condo (Freehold) at 280k, 2nd hand unit.
Can someone let me know how much extra do i need to prepare for all the fees? (Legal fees, MOT...etc)? |
Hi Vodka,
Legal Fees (assuming without strata title)
S&P and DOA - RMRM2410.00
5% tax - RM120.50
Disbursments
Stamping of S&P - RM40.00
Stamping of DOA - RM30.00
Adjudication of DOA - RM10.00
Land Search - RM30 per title
Other charges - RM100
Total Legal Fees : RM2740.50
Stamp Duty - RM4,600.00 |
hi cynthusc,
I am thinking of purchasing a 2nd hand lease hold condo price around 120K. The lease hold of this condo is around 71 out of 99 years and I believed all title should have been awarded (Since people has been moving in for the past 6 years).
Based on the info you provided, can I safely said the legal fees should be around 55% cheaper then the quoted above? The above mentioned fees will be pay by me, and owner will not be charge with the fee?
Thanks in advance in helping me, a total newbie in property. Thanks |
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ongyinhoe
Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 70
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Dear all,
I have lend a loan of RM124710 for my condo. May i know how much is the fee for loan agreement?
Thanks.
Regards,
Ong Yin Hoe |
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World IR
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 285
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borland
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Kuala Lumpur
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Buying second hand house |
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Hi, I'm new here. Hope every body could share you knowledge/expertise. Appreciate that.
I have paid the booking/earnest deposit for a second hand 2 storey terrace house.
Below are the detail;
1. Price RM 330
2. 3 years old house
3. Lease Hold
4. Status: Title received but the owner not yet change to his name
5. The S&P is ready for signature and lawyer is already asking for the remaining 8% (I pay 2% already for booking)
My questions;
1. I plan to get full loan by mark-up the price. How can I mark-up the price since S&P is alrady complete? Or do I have to check with bank first and then get S&P prepare & sign?
2. How long it takes to change the properties name from developer to me?
3. Can I do renovation before the property change to my name?
4. How much extra cost I have to pay on top of 10% d/p?
5. What will happen if existing Owner delay in chnaging the property nmae while he already received the 10 % money?
6. Please advice if I should / should not buy this house.
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards _________________ Work smart, play hard, keep it simple |
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scteng
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Buying second hand house |
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| borland wrote: | Hi, I'm new here. Hope every body could share you knowledge/expertise. Appreciate that.
I have paid the booking/earnest deposit for a second hand 2 storey terrace house.
Below are the detail;
1. Price RM 330
2. 3 years old house
3. Lease Hold
4. Status: Title received but the owner not yet change to his name
5. The S&P is ready for signature and lawyer is already asking for the remaining 8% (I pay 2% already for booking)
My questions;
1. I plan to get full loan by mark-up the price. How can I mark-up the price since S&P is alrady complete? Or do I have to check with bank first and then get S&P prepare & sign?
2. How long it takes to change the properties name from developer to me?
3. Can I do renovation before the property change to my name?
4. How much extra cost I have to pay on top of 10% d/p?
5. What will happen if existing Owner delay in chnaging the property nmae while he already received the 10 % money?
6. Please advice if I should / should not buy this house.
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards |
Hi, I have the same question as borland, can anyone help to advise? |
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scteng
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Buying second hand house |
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| borland wrote: | Hi, I'm new here. Hope every body could share you knowledge/expertise. Appreciate that.
I have paid the booking/earnest deposit for a second hand 2 storey terrace house.
Below are the detail;
1. Price RM 330
2. 3 years old house
3. Lease Hold
4. Status: Title received but the owner not yet change to his name
5. The S&P is ready for signature and lawyer is already asking for the remaining 8% (I pay 2% already for booking)
My questions;
1. I plan to get full loan by mark-up the price. How can I mark-up the price since S&P is alrady complete? Or do I have to check with bank first and then get S&P prepare & sign?
2. How long it takes to change the properties name from developer to me?
3. Can I do renovation before the property change to my name?
4. How much extra cost I have to pay on top of 10% d/p?
5. What will happen if existing Owner delay in chnaging the property nmae while he already received the 10 % money?
6. Please advice if I should / should not buy this house.
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards |
Hi, I have the same question as borland, can anyone help to advise? |
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scteng
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Hi I have the same question as Borland, can anyone advise? |
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cynthusc
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 310
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Buying second hand house |
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| borland wrote: | Hi, I'm new here. Hope every body could share you knowledge/expertise. Appreciate that.
I have paid the booking/earnest deposit for a second hand 2 storey terrace house.
Below are the detail;
1. Price RM 330
2. 3 years old house
3. Lease Hold
4. Status: Title received but the owner not yet change to his name
5. The S&P is ready for signature and lawyer is already asking for the remaining 8% (I pay 2% already for booking)
My questions;
1. I plan to get full loan by mark-up the price. How can I mark-up the price since S&P is alrady complete? You can't unless the vendor agrees
Or do I have to check with bank first and then get S&P prepare & sign? if you check with the bank they will say no as this is illegal - you are trying to 'cheat' the bank so why ask them?
2. How long it takes to change the properties name from developer to me? Leasehold property must be transferred to the seller first then you. It will probably take 1-2 years
3. Can I do renovation before the property change to my name? You can but it is at your own risk4. How much extra cost I have to pay on top of 10% d/p? Legal cost, stamp duty for both transfer and loan
5. What will happen if existing Owner delay in chnaging the property nmae while he already received the 10 % money? your lawyer should have dealt with this in the S&P. If not it is too late to consider this issue now
6. Please advice if I should / should not buy this house. This is your decision
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards |
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EA_pg
Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Hi All,
I have just received the quotation for Loan agreement & Transfer bill from the same lawyer for the SnP. This is my first time buying house, so really need advise from those with experience, especially Noor713, cynthusc, or anyone
Property details:
Landed Double Storey with individual title at Penang - under construction property. Buying from developer. SnP only RM500 (rest bore by developer).
Purchase price: RM398,000.00
Loan amount: RM359,649.00 (including MRTA, taking loan with my wife)
SnP agreement: RM500
Quotation for Loan agreement
Fees
-> Facility Agreement: RM2967.55 (less 30%)
-> Charge: RM296.75
-> Caveat and withdrawal of caveat: RM350
Disbursement:
Stamp Duty on
-> facility agreement: RM1830
-> charge: Rm40
-> Letter of Offer: RM10
Registration Fee
-> Charge: RM 130
-> Caveat: RM 180
-> Withdrawal of caveat: RM 150
Search fee: RM100
Bankruptcy search: RM24
Statutory Declaration: RM50
Bank Forms: RM150
Printing charges: RM30
Miscellaneous: RM50
5% service charge: RM136.20
Total amount: RM5604.20
Quotation for Transfer
Fees
->Transfer: RM809
Disbursement:
Stamp duty on transfer: RM6960
Registration fee on transfer: RM500
Search fee: RM60
Adjudication fee: RM10
Travelling: RM20
Printing Charges: RM30
Miscellaneous: RM50
5% Service tax: RM40.45
Total amount: RM8479.45
So,the total amount I need to pay for S&P agreement and Loan agreement are RM14,583.65. Please kindly advise. Thanks a lot. |
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freedom81
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afshinrah1
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: rent income tax |
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Hi,
Could you please tell me what is rule of rent income tax in malaysia
I'm non resident , and what to buy property in KL, My question is
if rental monthly income is 3000RM (3000x12) how much tax apply to that income.
thanks
afshin |
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expired
Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 38
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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My fren is selling his apartment leasehold and without tittle yet, sharing lawyer with buyer's S&P lawyer , so he only paying some fees for deed of receipt and resssignment , below are the breakdown :
1. Stamping on Statutory Declaration = 10
2. Stamping on Deed of receipt and reassignment = 50
3. Filing of deed of receipt and reassignment at high court = 20
4. OA search = 12
5. Affirmation fee = 4
6. Expenses on travelling, dispatch, etc = 130
7. Expenses on photocopy, postage, communication, etc = 120
8. Fee for preparing and filing the deed of receipt and reassgnment = 400
9. Government service tax (5%) =20
TOTAL = 766.00
may i ask, they are sharing the same lawyer, but can the lawyer charge both side for photocopy ?
Can part 8. request for discount ?
wat is the deed of receipt and reassignment? _________________ I m noob in property |
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azr
Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: ZMC |
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Confession: I am very new here
Questions:
1. When a bank says that they offer Zero Moving Cost, is that really zero? Will they also cover the disbursement, the S&P and whatnot?
2. When they are paying all the charges, will they actually overcharge? |
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