Malaysia Real Estate

Jinn · Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 5

well, many people think that staying in condos are much safer then in houses. But i quite disagree with such perceptions. Just take for instance, if anything would happen to u in a condo, no matter how much u scream or shout ( in ur unit , say mayb at the 8th floor), who is going to hear you?It could be worst if there are not many occupants in the same floor as you to help. Another thing is that normally the security at post are always dozing off while on duty, especially those at the graveyard shift.

however, this issue is debatable. anyone?

wiser · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 10

To me, landed property is equally safe. My property is protected with several well trained guard dog and it has been so far so good.

Cheers

mda · Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 25

Well there has been instances where even houses with dogs have been robbed...i guess it's just a matter of luck and precautions

Mohdali · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 8 Location: Johor Bahru

wing7 · Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 12

No matter condo or landed properties, there are chances to get rob/break in.

Well, as what mda said "just a matter of luck "
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realtalk · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 219

It would depend on what kind of condo you're living in. If you're in the non high-end variety where there's usually another unit right next to yours, or even both sides plus up down(if windows were open), I'd think that your neighbours would hear you screaming even better than if you were in a house. Unless they weren't home. Same goes with any link or semi-d house. If your neighbours weren't home and no one was in the streets at all and the opposite row of houses(assuming there are) is a bit too far or the inhabitants were dead asleep, they wouldn't hear you either. But really, you shouldn't worry too much about these things.

blaster · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 36

I think even if your neighbours can hear screams, what are chance that they would come out to help? I think for a condo you will have only 1 entry to your apt which is your gate- secure that. For a house you would have multiple entry; kitchen, window, door, etc.- more difficult to secure.

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

Banzai · Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 3368

I do. I choose my neighbours as closely as i choose the place i intend to live at. This would be the immediate neighbours and if condo/flat, the ones above and below (directly adjacent) as well. It is one of my FAQs when i buy because i will ask to see if there is any leakage in the unit directly below.

I don't like living next to rowdy neighbours and the neighbours have to be fairly young as well. If i don't know the place well, I will ask the landlord if i can hang around the place every now and then before committing, to get a feel of what the neigbhourhood is like at different times of the day and on different days.

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

I did do a check on my immediate neighbours for the same reason that I don't prefer living next to rowdy Laughing

people . I also checked to ensure that these units were not being rented out. I prefer having the owners themselves as neighbours.

But I didnt go to the extent of knowing who's above or below me ! Confused

mercuri · Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 4601 Location: KL

Well getting to know all ur immediate neighbours is actually the most appropriate and best way in terms of security when something do happen. I could vividly remember last time during any festivities, my neighbours would actually come over and we always exchange pleasantries and gifts, incl food! Very Happy

I noticed with the newer suburbs and also condominiums, this neighbourhood spirits is progressive loosing out to high tech security features. I wouldn't be surprised if ur neighbours eyes u suspiciously when u begin knocking on their doors! Laughing

realtalk · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 219

heh, one of my neighbours whose house is right next to mine(it's a big house and they have a lot of people living in there so till this day I can only point out 2 or 3 faces that I really recognise as from that house and I believe likewise for them they probably don't remember how we look like either, or don't know we're the next door neighbours), once came out in the middle of the night while I was reparking my dad's car and asked me suspiciously what I was doing. I told him I was reparking my dad's car and he asked:" You sure that's your dad's car? " He said people have been stealing cars here and even the rims from one of the cars from his house parked outside have been stolen and then proceeded to ask me again is that really my dad's car. I almost wanted to give him a sarcastic answer like:" no, I just enjoy breaking into people's homes, looking for their car keys and then reparking their cars for them nicely in full view of everyone; as opposed to the typical thief who uses some tool to break into a vehicle while keeping a low profile, hot-wiring it and then drive off quickly with as little noise as possible. "
Yeah, at least he was a brave and responsible neighbour but he was really rude about it despite me showing him the key(would I have the key unless I was in one of those armed confrontation involving syndicates a la following the owner back to the vehicle and pointing a gun at him to handover the keys, which might I add usually requires at least more than one person to carry out?). Then when I was walking back into my house, he turned back to look at me again just to make sure I was really from that house. Haha funny lah...imagine a thief in order to cover up just walk into any random house near the car to pretend he lives there. Oh, and he'd have to be damn lucky that the gate was wide open! lol...I dunno man, maybe I look dodgy. haha

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

andoshahril · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 46 Location: Puchong

Hahaha.. I wouldn't mind having your nosy neighbour living next door to my unit, realtalk. At least you have someone "watching" over your stuffs. My immediate neighbour avoids me like I am some deadly virus and pretends that I don't exist. I once had the displeasure of sharing the same lift with this unfriendly neighbour and when I said a chirpy hello to him, he merely looked straight at the elevator door and didn't even bother to reciprocate. Personally, I believe one should make an effort to get to know one's immediate neighbours when one moves to a new neighbourhood... but then again it also depends on who your neighbours are. If they are all like my arrogant neighbour... it's gonna be pretty tough. Rolling Eyes

andoshahril · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 46 Location: Puchong

Hiding money in your undergarments, Honeysha? *Laughs Laughing

I think that's gonna be pretty uncomfortable. Imagine going out for dinner with a client and when the bill comes, you have to say something like : Give me a minute waiter while I unzip my pants and grope for the money I have cleverly hidden in my underpants for safekeeping. Nah... not a pretty scenario. My advice is : Don't carry too much cash in your wallet or purse whenever you go out and always carry a debit card with you in case the need for extra cash arises. I don't favour credit cards - more often than not, you would end up spending more than what you can actually afford to.

realtalk · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 219

sad thing is, despite that...it's still so hard to catch any thieves. Coz every once in a while, a new trend in thievery will exist. It used to be rims, cars whatever. Then, they smash windows to steal smart tag, then a few months ago you know what? Steel prices go up and assholes are stealing the iron grille drain covers from in front of people's gates to sell in the black market! U know this causes so much inconvenience man! It becomes so hard just to drive out of the car porch everyday! And the DBKL is so slow to act, they take weeks even before they come over and give you a temporary wooden block to cover up the hole and who knows when they'll finally get to replacing the God damned iron grille.

You know what's the best part of all this? The cops ronda the area every single night till the wee hours of the morning? Makes you think huh? Something is definitely going on......

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

realtalk · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 219

This is sooooooo overreacting man. Dunno what to say. If they're really so scared, realise that these days robbers are so ruthless and heartless they'll do anything! So it stil isn't foolproof. But even if it was, it's still ridiculous lah.

Don't bluff lah Sharon I bet you do that too that's why you keep asking who else does this so you'll feel better bout yourself! Razz

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

realtalk · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 219

eh...does it turn you on or what when you put money there? Maybe you have a fantasy of being a stripper/lapdancer? Razz

oops...Is this forum unrestricted or strictly Disney rating? Twisted Evil

andoshahril · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 46 Location: Puchong

Hehhehhehheh..... You guys are funny. Anyway, the next time I am at Jusco, I shall make it a point to check out if they sell underwears with pockets. I reckon it would be safer to get those with buttons, wouldn't you agree, aite!?

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

heeheeheeehee .. Smile

btw, pleased to meet you both, real and shahril.

andoshahril · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 46 Location: Puchong

Yeah... thanks for making me laugh, sharon. Stay cool, mate! Wink

honeysha · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

Parameswaran · Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 28 Location: Selangor

Hi Everyone, As You would probably know by now, I have just introduced my self in the Main thread.

With relation to the whole sub threads, my opinion on wether the landed property or condos are safer , it very much depends on the circumstances and location of the area. Lets say if you chose to buy a property in Bukit rimau for instance, it was used to be known as a very notorious area filed with all kind of criminals. There are many steps to taken to make the area safe, but it is not subjected to a totally safe environment. If you talk within the parameters of the property, "maybe" with the presence of trained and alert guards, atleast 40% security safety can be almost achieved. I am speaking out of my experience of 15 years in the field.

You can have alarms installed and it would probably contribute another 25% to the security setup. You can also have cctv's installed and neighbourhood patrols done on a as need as basis. But are you raelly secure from any type of criminal intent? Not really.

Safety and Security should start from the house. Not from outside. If you are aware of the geography and demography of the area you are buying property in, it is advisable to consider starting a security survey by your selves. I wll have the House security survery questionnaire setup in my webpage soon to assist any budding house buyers in the future.

In the mean time, from my experience, condos can be quite nasty too. I have recently surveyed and put up a proposal for a very troubled condo location in Klang. Sadly, The demographics are so bad, that, you need extra guards to be placed in certain areas to avoid intrusion. That boils down to parameter security. If you parameters are jst mere meh fences, dont hope for much. If it is a wall, with small sharp irons on it, maybe, maybe. But if it is a tal wall with iron rods and Fiber Optics on it. You are secure from outside intrusion. Turst me. But again, if the guard house is not alert, What is destined to happen will eventually happen.

I have done so many successful security stups for factories and housing estates, but again, there is a small little feeling that continously linger in my mind. IF the setup is successful, but the execution is bad? .. well.. its just a different story all together.

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