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CITY TOWER @ D'alamanda Serviced Condominium
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jeff_kwek



Joined: 03 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told that we are not allowed to enter the sky garden unless we have registered ourself at the management office, and then escorted by the security to let u access the sky garden. I asked them why and they said to avoid any commit suicide, cuz it happen at the low cost flat next to d'alamanda. I think they just want to give an excuse not to let us go in. This is our right to enter the sky garden, we have paid for it!!! Sad
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eijilee



Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeff_kwek wrote:
I was told that we are not allowed to enter the sky garden unless we have registered ourself at the management office, and then escorted by the security to let u access the sky garden. I asked them why and they said to avoid any commit suicide, cuz it happen at the low cost flat next to d'alamanda. I think they just want to give an excuse not to let us go in. This is our right to enter the sky garden, we have paid for it!!! Sad


Yeah, you are right~ Just dont hope they use this facility to make money...
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taiko



Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sky terrace should be built on level 6 in the first place, so that all of us can access to it. Now that it is on top of phase 2, if they allow everyone to access it freely, it will only cause more traffic to the four lifts that are serving phase 2. Also more security issues.
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cyee



Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Hi guys Reply with quote

great that you guys are taking pro active steps. I am a bit concerned about the guards too. they dont speak english nor malay well. If there is an emergency, they might not even understand the problem.

the lifts seems to be moving too slowly, there is a long long wait at the lift each time and bearing in mind, not many of us are staying there yet. the post box are far away, i only stumbled upon it by accident.

anyway, any ping pong players here? I play ping pong, so need to find kaki(s).
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Hi guys Reply with quote

I just collected my keys for a 1097 sq ft unit on the 21st floor or Block C. So far, there's been a lot of defects (e.g. main power box totally short-circuited, chipped walls, ugly plastering jobs, crooked light switches). The most major one is that I see water spots all over the ceiling, everywhere except the master bedroom. Looks like water's leaking from the sky terrace? Also, I'm very disappointed with the size of the master bathroom. I'll need to take the door out and fit a retractable door instead. And the shower stall is tiny too! I don't remember it being so small! I saw the smaller demo unit and the bathroom was much much bigger!
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taiko



Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how many times we can submit the defect list? As we could have missed certain defects during the first submission.
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cyee



Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Defect lists Reply with quote

I do not think they can limit the number of defect complains. As long as you have not commence renovation works. I have submitted my second list already and they are still entertaining me. As long as it is within the period of defect liability, you should be entitled to lodge your complain anytime.
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Defect lists Reply with quote

cyee wrote:
I do not think they can limit the number of defect complains. As long as you have not commence renovation works. I have submitted my second list already and they are still entertaining me. As long as it is within the period of defect liability, you should be entitled to lodge your complain anytime.


So how long is the defect liability period you mentioned? And by renovation does it include installing cabinets, fans, or lighting or something more major?
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cyee



Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Defect Liability Period Reply with quote

The normal SPA that they have prepared is 1 year for defect liability period. Since this is a commercial building that was sold before the amendment to the Housing Developer's Act, each term can be individually negotiated for.

Any form of defect preferably is to be complained before any renovation can take place otherwise they will say it is your contractors that has caused the problem. But say all you did was install a kitchen cabinet and your complain is the toilet, there shld be no reason for them to refuse to remedy your defect. some defects are latent defects (means it doesnt manifest itself until after some time) you are still entitled to demand for it to be remedied provided that it remained untouched by your contractors.

Becareful about what you install or renovate coz it will give the developer a reason not to continue rectifying your defect works.
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Defect Liability Period Reply with quote

cyee wrote:
Becareful about what you install or renovate coz it will give the developer a reason not to continue rectifying your defect works.


Cool! Thanks for the info.!
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lizard



Joined: 24 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Defect Liability Period Reply with quote

I was told by the official of the Ministry of Housing Department, the defect liability period has extended to 18 months if you signed your SPA after 2005 (if not mistaken). But again, you have to check the terms in the SPA.

Regarding the defect liability period, i thought as long as it is still within the period, any defect should be fixed by the developer? Is it only cover before the renovation period, that the agreement should word differently, right?
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taiko



Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Defect lists Reply with quote

cyee wrote:
I do not think they can limit the number of defect complains. As long as you have not commence renovation works. I have submitted my second list already and they are still entertaining me. As long as it is within the period of defect liability, you should be entitled to lodge your complain anytime.


I thought I'm the only one who had submitted twice. Good to hear that, as I'm going to submit the third round. Just found out that one of the wall tile in the kitchen was not laid flatly.
Since I haven't start any renovation yet, I think it should be okay.
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khasim



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Defect lists Reply with quote

taiko wrote:
I thought I'm the only one who had submitted twice. Good to hear that, as I'm going to submit the third round. Just found out that one of the wall tile in the kitchen was not laid flatly.
Since I haven't start any renovation yet, I think it should be okay.


Speaking of tiles, what's the best way to check if they were installed properly? Is there a certain technique to ensure everything's done right?
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taiko



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Defect lists Reply with quote

khasim wrote:

Speaking of tiles, what's the best way to check if they were installed properly? Is there a certain technique to ensure everything's done right?


I'm no expert in it but I think if you want a very detail check, perhaps you can use a spirit level.
For my case, it is very obviously that the tile was not laid properly. But some how I missed to identify it during my first and second round.
oops, one more item to addon, one of the toilet's flushing mechanism got problem.
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cyee



Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: defects lists Reply with quote

You guys are not the first. Everytime I look at my unit, I have a new complain, I guess I will never finish sending in my defect list. Just used their gym today and found out that their equipment are quite flimsy. Wished that they have more quality stuff that at least can last longer.

My room window has a big gap and the ceiling board in my toilet looks like it will fall down anytime.
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Interest charges for late payment Reply with quote

Guys, I wanted to check if any of you needed to pay any late charges because your bank made late payments on the disbursements to Elite Perspective? I had to pay more than RM300 in interest charges because of my bank's late payments.

Is there any chance of me getting this back from my bank since they're the ones at fault?
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cyee



Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: interest charges Reply with quote

well you can, but if u get a lawyer to help u, it may cost u more than ur rm300. tell the developer to waive it for you la. they claim that small amount they will waive on basis of goodwill.

provided that none of the delay is caused by you, your bank ought to bear the extra payment.
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khasim



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: interest charges Reply with quote

cyee wrote:
well you can, but if u get a lawyer to help u, it may cost u more than ur rm300. tell the developer to waive it for you la. they claim that small amount they will waive on basis of goodwill.

provided that none of the delay is caused by you, your bank ought to bear the extra payment.


A bit too late to ask the developer to waive since I already paid them before getting the keys. Also, they supposedly waived some of the charges already.

I guess I'll need to check with the bank. Sad
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Defects Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I submitted my defects list to the office and they said they'll take a MONTH to fix everything! Is that what they tell everyone?

Has anyone noticed how most of the power outlets and light switches are installed crooked? Can we also list them as defects? I noticed that even the lift button thingy at the lift lobby is a bit crooked!

As for grilles, I don't see any installed over the balcony railing. Is that not allowed? So where can grills be installed? Outside the sliding glass doors? The railing is a bit low don't you think?
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fiyaloh



Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Defects Reply with quote

Ya , I have been inform by them they need one month to fix . Balcony grill can be install but must inside the house .

khasim wrote:
Hey guys,

I submitted my defects list to the office and they said they'll take a MONTH to fix everything! Is that what they tell everyone?

Has anyone noticed how most of the power outlets and light switches are installed crooked? Can we also list them as defects? I noticed that even the lift button thingy at the lift lobby is a bit crooked!

As for grilles, I don't see any installed over the balcony railing. Is that not allowed? So where can grills be installed? Outside the sliding glass doors? The railing is a bit low don't you think?
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taiko



Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although they said one month, they fixed most of my defects within a week. I think minor defects are faster. It also depends if they are handling alot of units or not.
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Defects Reply with quote

fiyaloh wrote:
Ya , I have been inform by them they need one month to fix . Balcony grill can be install but must inside the house .


Inside the house? You mean it has to be on the sliding door? That would be ugly though. But if security's OK, then I might not install anything.

Any of you have units on the 21st floor? My ceiling has water spots all over! I don't know if that's from a bad paint job or if the terrace is leaking water into my unit!
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fiyaloh



Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Defects Reply with quote

Ya ! Abit Weird it install inside the house , Anyway i saw many unit in Block A & B did not install grill for sliding door .MY paint job is poor as well, no choice la, have to repaint

khasim wrote:
fiyaloh wrote:
Ya , I have been inform by them they need one month to fix . Balcony grill can be install but must inside the house .


Inside the house? You mean it has to be on the sliding door? That would be ugly though. But if security's OK, then I might not install anything.

Any of you have units on the 21st floor? My ceiling has water spots all over! I don't know if that's from a bad paint job or if the terrace is leaking water into my unit!
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khasim



Joined: 02 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Defects Reply with quote

fiyaloh wrote:
Ya ! Abit Weird it install inside the house , Anyway i saw many unit in Block A & B did not install grill for sliding door .MY paint job is poor as well, no choice la, have to repaint


Well, if the security is good enough, then there's really no need to install grilles and feel trapped in your own apartment. I might just install one sliding glass window for the yard area since it's so close to the hallway outside that someone can just jump right into my unit.

Does anyone know a good contractor to install grilles/doors?
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eijilee



Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please get the standard drawings for the grille and sliding window from Maintenance Department. There is only one standard allowed.

I understand the price for the grille is quite expansive if quote from outside contractor. You have right to look for outside contractor

You are not able to change the door at the entrance. Inside your house is not an issue

I think you might need to ask the management to redo the water proof for your ceiling... think they din do the job properly.
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